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Stacie Mintz: Managing Director and Head of Quantitative Equity, PGIM

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Stacie Mintz“I took the initiative to lead before I was formally in a leadership role,” says Stacie Mintz. “You don’t need direct reports to be a leader. You can influence, mentor, and shine without the hierarchy of a team reporting to you.”

Starting her career at PGIM as an analyst in the multi-asset side of the quant business, Mintz set herself apart by making decisions when others hesitated, trusting her instincts and offering solutions. Rather than just alerting portfolio managers when money came in for the business to invest, she went a step further and proposed how she thought it should be invested.

“Nine times out of ten, the portfolio manager signed the trade ticket I presented, and when they didn’t, they explained why, which was a huge learning moment for me.” This proactive approach didn’t go unnoticed, and earned her a promotion to portfolio manager, where she eventually oversaw $10 billion in assets for the Prudential pension plan.

In managing the asset allocation for pension plans, Mintz recognized the important role equities played in meeting pension promises. Her experience in using both fundamental- and quant-driven strategies to balance risk and return sparked her interest in being more involved in the evolution of PGIM’s quant core strategies, eventually leading to an equity portfolio manager role.

“I was able to use my experience in asset allocation to contribute to the evolution of our quant equity strategies. I also had a knack for explaining complex quant concepts to a wide variety of audiences, which helped grow the business and retain clients.”

Throughout her career, Mintz successfully navigated difficult market cycles, which included the bursting of the dot com bubble, the Great Financial Crisis, and Covid fear-driven markets of 2020. The experience in managing assets and client relationships during challenging times, along with her leaderships skills, made her an ideal candidate to take on the role of Head of Quantitative Equity, a role she took on in July 2020.

Strategies for success

Reflecting on what it takes to be a successful leader, Mintz emphasizes the value of collaborating with colleagues who have complementary skills and always coming to the table with solutions.

“I tell my team to identify the problems, but always come to the table with solutions too. There is great value in helping drive the success of the firm through continual evolution.”

Even if it involves stepping outside of one’s comfort zone to propose solutions that could be rejected, Mintz encourages taking that risk to foster growth. Public speaking, for instance, is her own stretch area—though her numerous media interviews might suggest otherwise.

“Investing is a fast moving, competitive industry. To be successful, I tell aspiring investment professionals that they not only need to understand the importance of making good investment decisions on behalf of clients, but they also need to invest in themselves… it’s the best investment they’ll ever make.”

From graduating with her MBA from New York University and earning her CFA, Mintz knows how crucial it is to invest in personal growth and development. “Investing in yourself will always have a positive return and open the door to endless possibilities. It’s so important to continue to stay up to date on rapidly evolving industry developments, so we can successfully meet and exceed clients’ needs.”

Inspired to empower others

While many individual qualities have shaped Mintz’s leadership development, she acknowledges the vital role of support along the way and cites Maggie Stumpp, PGIM Quantitative Solutions’ former chief investment officer, as her greatest inspiration.

“Not only is she brilliant, and I learned a lot from an investment perspective, but she also gave me a lot of room to grow.” Mintz says. “She trusted me, and I knew I could always go to her with questions… She believed in me, even when I doubted myself.”

Inspired and influenced by Stumpp’s leadership, Mintz aims to foster a similar culture of support and empowerment and has an open-door policy. She encourages informal communication through quick morning catchups, providing a forum for the team to hear the latest updates, while also giving space for opinions and feedback.

“I want to make sure that I delegate real responsibilities to them, and they feel empowered and valuable. I want them to trust themselves to make decisions, and that I’ll support them.”

Supporting the next generation of leaders

For Mintz, part of supporting her team and the growth of the business means fostering the development of the next generation of leaders.

“I emphasize the importance of mentoring our junior team members to my senior portfolio managers, ensuring they’re engaged in meaningful projects that enable them to grow and develop, while highlighting their strengths and the value they bring to the team.”

She not only emphasizes skills development, but also being approachable and available to help with questions, especially around navigating the push and pull of work and home life. As a mother of three, Mintz knows how tough it is to build a successful career while raising children.

“It’s important to share the ups and downs of my journey, and how I got through them,” she continues, “There will always be bumps in the road where people feel like, ‘I can’t do this,’ but if we support them through those moments, it will lead to a more diverse senior team in the future.”

One key lesson Mintz reflects on is recognizing she felt “too much guilt” when her children were younger, particularly when she had to make tough decisions about prioritizing her time. Mintz recalls, “I was always urging my kids to be the first to raise their hands for class activities and parties, so we could buy napkins or paper plates or pre-made items – because that’s what fit into my work and family’s busy schedule.”

Now that her children are grown, Mintz acknowledges, “My kids turned out great, and I was a big part of their lives.” It’s the same message she conveys to her team when they are navigating the challenges of balancing work and family, “It’s going to turn out much better than it feels in the moment.”

With an empty nest, Mintz still values a work-life balance, but now has more time to spend on her own pursuits such as fitness, golf and travel.

By Jessica Robaire

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Heather Garland: Vice President, Global Chief Marketing Officer, PGIM Investments

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Heather Garland“It’s important to embrace change and demonstrate adaptability as you grow in your career,” says Heather Garland. “This helped me develop a well-rounded, transferable skill set.”

Garland shares how a growth mindset, being flexible, and viewing challenges as stepping stones can help build the skills and experience for a successful career. Her passion for nurturing her team’s development mirrors her dedication to driving business success, believing that both are not mutually exclusive.

Pursuing opportunities for growth

Garland’s career has been one of continuous growth and reinvention. In college, Garland majored in psychology and wasn’t sure what career path she wanted to pursue. While finishing her degree at night, she took a sales assistant role at AXA and was eventually recruited to join PGIM, where she has now spent more than 25 years building a successful career. Though she didn’t know much about financial services at the time, Garland saw her first role at PGIM as an intriguing challenge.

Dedicated to advancing her career and learning the industry, Garland seized every opportunity through lateral moves, stretch assignments, and professional designations, like the FINRA Series 7 and CIMA certifications.

“There were times I pursued growth opportunities, and other times I was tapped on the shoulder to lead different areas as part of a strategy shift,” she says.

One of those pivotal moments came twelve years ago when Garland transitioned into Marketing, leading marketing communications, product marketing and more recently, client marketing. These experiences became the foundation that launched her into her newly appointed role as Global Chief Marketing Officer, where she leads a team that is shaping the future of PGIM Investments’ marketing strategy.

“There are a number of initiatives and pilot programs underway that ultimately will help drive business growth and enable us to deliver better experiences for our clients,” she says.

Fostering the development of others

For Garland, few things are more rewarding than guiding others as they advance in their careers.  She explains, “One of the most fulfilling aspects of my role is helping high performers grow and pursue their goals. I’ve had a number of team members who have moved on to other roles within PGIM or externally. I feel like a proud parent when I see someone take that next step in their career.”

Not only does Garland invest in the growth of her team members, but she is committed to supporting up-and-coming women across PGIM, as she recognizes what a difference it made for her own career.

“I was part of the first pilot program in PGIM Investments, in which I was paired with a mentor outside of my direct team. That experience opened doors for me, eventually leading to my current role.”

Taking leadership to the next level with an executive coach

Beyond the support of mentors and managers in her organization, Garland credits working with a leadership coach as instrumental in shaping her career development. She points to the accountability of meeting with a coach on a regular basis and working on specific goals as beneficial.

“With my coach, I developed a roadmap to focus on building strategic, one-on-one relationships with senior decision-makers in the organization – people I often needed to gain support from or collaborate with. One of the most valuable relationships I’ve built through that process is with our head of sales – a connection who was open and happy to meet with me as part of the growth plan I initiated.”

Another aspect of the coaching experience that Garland finds impactful is receiving input from her peers and leaders as part of a 360-feedback report, giving her the opportunity to reflect on her strengths and potential areas of growth from a multitude of perspectives. This feedback enabled her to create a plan around what to start – and stop doing – to focus on what matters most in her role.

She reflects, “I was also able to look at my functional area differently and recommend a new organizational structure that better aligned with where our business was headed.”

Lessons learned

After 25 years at PGIM, Garland understands that becoming an effective leader requires both time and experience to develop the necessary skills and confidence. She highlights the importance of focusing on progress rather than striving for perfection.

Another key element for career success that Garland emphasizes is self-advocacy. “Whether it’s being considered for a stretch project, a promotion, or a raise – don’t be afraid to ask for what you want. The worst response you’re going to get is ‘No,’ and even that gives you the opportunity to start a dialogue.”

“I used to have the mindset that if I kept my head down and worked hard, I’d be recognized for that and promoted in time. But, in reality, it doesn’t always work out that way. It wasn’t until I started becoming more intentional and vocal about my career goals that those opportunities finally started to come.”

Leaving time for adventure

Outside of work, Garland enjoys spending time with her family and exploring new places with her husband and two kids, both near and far – they took a recent trip to Nicaragua. She also finds joy experimenting in her kitchen – when she has time – and reading, preferably on a beach.

“I don’t think there’s such a thing as work-life balance. I view it more like a seesaw,” Garland says. “There are times where you may need to focus more on work, and times where you need to focus more on your personal life. As leaders, it’s important to understand that for our team members as well.”

By Jessica Robaire

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Yasmine Coupal: Partner, Goldman Sachs

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Yasmine Coupal“Careers are not linear, and there isn’t a one size fits all approach. I think the key is to find the balance that works for you professionally and personally. If I had tried to predict what the next five years of my career would have been at any single point in time, I would have been completely wrong,” says Yasmine Coupal, a partner in Investment Banking, Goldman Sachs. “I thought I was joining Goldman Sachs for two years, and here I am, 20 years later.”

Coupal’s career is a testament to the power of embracing the unexpected. Born and raised in Venezuela, she initially set her sights on economic development, education policy in particular, planning to return to Latin America after completing undergraduate and graduate degrees in Economics and International Policy at Stanford. But a surprising detour into finance changed everything.

After graduation, a friend who was working at Goldman Sachs recommended she interview for a role on the Latin America credit team and Coupal was impressed with the people she interviewed with.

“It was too compelling of an offer to pass up, even though it meant adjusting my plans to return to Venezuela to be with my then boyfriend, now husband of 19 years.” She remembers, “long story short, I took the job in 2004, and he moved to New York instead.”

Yasmine thrived at Goldman as an analyst on the Latin America and Natural Resources credit risk team. Coupal states that she loved to travel across the region and while on a business trip in Argentina in 2007, she met a VP that ultimately convinced her to join the capital markets team as an associate. She then shifted her coverage from Latin America to domestic industrial companies.

“I wasn’t looking for a move, but I knew it was time for a challenge and to try something new.”

It was Coupal’s unwavering openness to new challenges that propelled her advancement from an internal facing role in Credit Risk to a client facing role in Capital Markets. However, it was the personal decision to relocate to San Francisco with her husband that proved to be a turning point in her career. Taking the risk to leave the financial hub of New York and follow her heart, Coupal found herself in the midst of Silicon Valley’s booming tech scene. Leveraging her unique position of being on the ground to meet with large cap tech clients, Coupal built relationships, knowledge and experience with TMT (Technology, Media and Telecommunications) clients while still very much covering her sector of industrial and real estate companies for the bank.

Ultimately, when the Managing Director for TMT debt capital markets retired in 2014, Coupal raised her hand and was selected to lead the team due to the strong relationships she had built with clients on the West Coast. In fact, she made Managing Director in 2015 and in 2018, the firm officially created the West Coast Financing Team. Along with Will Connelly, Coupal was named Co-Head and after growing and guiding the team through the pandemic, Yasmine made partner in 2020.

She reflects, “there will be moments in your career when you’ll need to make decisions based on what aligns with your professional goals and then there are moments when personal priorities are more important. Sometimes it involves taking risks, even when the outcome is uncertain. Ultimately, finding the right balance that works for you is key.”

Never one to get too comfortable, Coupal made another bold move two years later in 2022, stepping into an investment banking role where she leads coverage of large cap technology companies. Driven by her constant quest for growth and her ability to turn every opportunity into a success, Coupal is excited to keep pushing her boundaries and challenge herself as she continues as a leader at Goldman Sachs.

Investing in Relationships

When Coupal first interviewed at Goldman, it was the people she met who ignited her excitement about joining the firm. Even today, the connections she built at the firm throughout her career remain a driving force in her sense of fulfillment at work as she notes, “you’re not going to really love the job or be successful if you don’t like the people that you work with.”

In addition to making the work more enjoyable, building relationships also expands one’s network. Coupal advocates for taking the time and effort to establish those connections, particularly through in-person opportunities like meeting for coffee.

“You need to invest in your network. It’s important to have a goal of setting up an in-person catch up with someone that you work with every single week because it allows for people to get to know you as a person, so that you’re not just a name on the other side of an email.”

The value of investing that time is multifold as it creates a sense of support, opens opportunities to learn from others, and engenders loyalty to each other and the firm.

“As people understand your interests, give you feedback and see that you’re performing, you automatically get new opportunities. It becomes this reciprocal cycle that leads to success,” says Coupal. “It’s also the glue that keeps people at the firm. One of the reasons I’ve stayed so long is because I have people that I admire who have invested in me. It creates a sense of loyalty.”

Mentorship is Reciprocal

In thinking about the significance of finding inspiration and support, Coupal points to one of her mentors, Susie Scher, as pivotal to her leadership development.

Coupal shares, “Susie was instrumental in my growth at Goldman Sachs from the associate level to Vice President, Managing Director and ultimately, Partner. In essence, she saw me grow up at Goldman Sachs. She is someone who identified my talent, invested in it, and was courageous enough to give me a lot of responsibility.”

Having the experience of a mentor who believed in her engenders a deep commitment for Coupal to pay it forward and be that support for others.

“It begins with how I develop my team and invest in them, placing a strong emphasis on feedback. I focus on building genuine relationships, getting to know who they are, their skills, their ambitions, and identifying the potential in them that they may not yet have recognized.”

Extending her influence beyond her direct reports, Coupal participates in formal mentorship programs at Goldman while also being open to informal connections when people reach out to her for guidance. In either circumstance, Coupal emphasizes, “mentoring is a two-way relationship, it requires both sides to equally invest. I might want to mentor as many people as I can, but if the other side is not reciprocating and wanting to develop that relationship, there’s only so far that I can go.”

Reflecting on where sponsorship fits within the framework of support and building relationships, Coupal believes that mentorship and sponsorship go hand in hand as the roles can shift and change as people move through the firm.

“It’s fluid. A mentor can become a sponsor, or vice versa, but the key to success lies not just in getting to know you personally, but in working with you. It’s that combination that makes the relationship most effective.”

Champion your Uniqueness

In addition to being an avid mentor and sponsor, Coupal supports diversity and inclusion efforts, participating in speaking engagements and hosting sessions that provide an opportunity for female talent at the firm to talk candidly about their experiences. One theme that she strives to convey to junior analysts is, “be your genuine self. Don’t try to be someone else. Don’t try to fit a mold that you think is the key to success.”

As a Latina woman excelling in the financial industry, Coupal speaks to how she champions her uniqueness and sees it as an asset.

“Being a subject matter expert while being a woman and Latina differentiates me, makes me unique and memorable, and many times allows me to connect with clients on a different level. Establishing these deep connections and trust has been critical in my career and allowed me to build and foster relationships I wouldn’t have had otherwise.”

Beyond recognizing the power of authenticity, Coupal emphasizes that adaptability and a willingness to step outside one’s comfort zone are instrumental to career development.

“Success in one stage of your career may not guarantee success in the next. Staying humble, seeking advice, thinking ahead, and remaining flexible when plans change is key.”

She continues, “be comfortable being uncomfortable. When you start feeling too comfortable, it’s a signal to challenge yourself with something new. It keeps you on your toes and ensures continuous growth.”

Outside of work, Coupal is eager to instill in her children the same curiosity and openness to new experiences that have shaped her own journey, especially through travel. “One of our greatest joys is taking our kids to explore different countries, cultures, and cuisines,” she says. Passionate about family time, Coupal loves spending weekends cheering at soccer games or unwinding together with a backyard barbecue.

By Jessica Robaire

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Kelly Odenheimer: Vice President, Global Customer Care, ETS

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Kelly Odenheimer“For me, it’s all about the connections,” says Kelly Odenheimer. “Whether it’s connecting with customers, employees, or colleagues, helping people and building those relationships are what drive me.”

Odenheimer is a leader who believes that true success and fulfillment come from more than just professional milestones. She shares how cultivating deep connections, embracing difficult conversations with confidence, and offering genuine support are the cornerstones of her approach to making a meaningful impact in both her career and personal life.

Driven by Connection

With a thirty-year tenure at ETS, Odenheimer emphasizes the importance of finding meaningful connections in her work as the key to a successful and fulfilling career. From her beginnings as a temp reconciling bubble answer sheets to working in executive communications, marketing and sales, Odenheimer consistently sought to understand how her role contributed to helping others. Now as the head of ETS’ global customer care team, she continues to prioritize the impact of her work, striving to ensure that every interaction adds value and supports the success of both her team and the customers they serve.

“In my current role, I work with organizations in the US and India, fostering global connections with people who are all working towards the same goal. My focus is on aligning teams, getting everyone on the same page, and motivating them to achieve our shared objectives.”

Odenheimer highlights kindness and a willingness to listen as integral to building those connections.

“Sometimes we forget as we climb the corporate ladder the importance of listening. While we may feel compelled to speak up in meetings to maintain our presence or appear to provide value, there is so much more benefit in listening.”

A leader who prioritizes listening and seeks to offer help first not only builds strong relationships but also fosters a shared sense of unity and collaboration.

“I always say, ‘I can’t do it all, but I can give it my all.’ That’s why it’s crucial for me to engage the right people and build relationships rooted in kindness and authenticity, so they feel inspired to give it their all too.”

Global Leadership is About Transparency and Trust

As a leader in a global role, Odenheimer emphasizes building a foundation of mutual respect, transparency, and trust, to collaborate across cultures and time zones. In working with her team in India and managing the nine and a half-hour time difference, Odenheimer notes, “I start early so they don’t have to stay late.” She also points to the importance of making the effort to travel and meet the team in person.

“You cannot operate as a global leader if you’ve never been to the places where the people you have supporting you live and work. You will never make the connection you need to make that will allow everyone to be successful.”

Odenheimer notes that traveling to meet global teams in person also gives her the opportunity to understand the cultural differences in what motivates a team in India versus a team in the US.

“I can’t expect to fully understand what motivates people in Hyderabad or Kolkata while sitting in New Jersey. I need to follow their lead and trust their insights, just as they trust me. And I genuinely enjoy it—now, when I visit, we hold rewards and recognition ceremonies, which are deeply valued in their culture.”

Knowing how much recognition is culturally meaningful to the team in India, Odenheimer makes a monthly habit of sending thank you emails to people identified as going above and beyond. She shares how this seemingly small gesture can have a profound impact, as she’s been greeted with hugs from team members there, expressing heartfelt gratitude for a simple note she sent months earlier.

Mentorship with Perspective

For Odenheimer, mentorship is another element of leadership that aligns with her deep commitment to building relationships and empowering others. As a mentor of staff in ETS’s mentorship program, Odenheimer finds that mentorship goes beyond just offering advice; it’s about forging genuine connections and understanding the unique perspectives of those she mentors.

“Mentorship isn’t a one-size-fits-all activity,” she explains. “Each person brings their own strengths and weaknesses, and my role is to help them recognize these qualities, understand their implications, and consider alternative approaches without compromising their authenticity.”

Odenheimer is also involved in diversity, equity, and inclusion programs and is a co-executive sponsor of the LGBTQ+ group, which is important to her as the mother of a transgender child. Outside of work, she volunteered to coach her (at the time) daughter’s lacrosse team when she realized that there were no female lacrosse coaches for this team on the sidelines. As she recalls, “it was so important for me that those girls saw a woman step up and do something that only a man had done before and for my child to feel supported.” In all these experiences she has seen firsthand how providing a listening ear, being present, and showing up to offer support can make a meaningful difference.

“The essence of mentorship is putting yourself in someone else’s shoes—truly seeing the world from their perspective—so you can guide them more effectively. Whether in a professional setting or coaching a lacrosse team, it’s never about you; it’s about helping others navigate their paths by understanding where they are coming from.”

The Hard Conversations are Worth it

In addition to her passion for fostering connections, Odenheimer believes effective leadership involves embracing the hard conversations and confidently using one’s voice to drive change. Odenheimer reflects on how these values were ingrained in her from an early age; as the eldest of three siblings, she often found herself in the position of initiating difficult discussions.

“I was always the one who had to have the hard conversations,” she recalls. “It taught me very early on the importance of being authentic and transparent in order to see positive change.”

This early experience shaped her approach as a leader, where she emphasizes the necessity of having tough conversations in the boardroom.

“If we grow up shying away from hard conversations, it’s hard to suddenly start having them,” she notes. “But if you’re able to practice it your whole life, it makes it a little easier to walk into those rooms with a confident voice.”

For Odenheimer, using her voice has been key to her personal and professional growth. “Finding my voice to ask for more for myself—whether it’s more responsibility, a different title, or more opportunity—has been crucial. I took ownership of the path I went on, and I did that with my actions and my voice.” She believes that this is how people find true success, not just by climbing the corporate ladder, but by achieving satisfaction in life.

“The most pivotal moments,” she reflects, “are probably when I realized my voice could be heard. You keep speaking and someone will listen.”

Balancing Family and Personal Fulfillment

Odenheimer’s dedication to building connections and offering support is just as evident in her personal life as it is in her professional one. She shares, “supporting and experiencing things with my kids is what I value most. Whether it’s the journey I’ve gone on with my oldest and him finding his true self to helping my younger son figure out what college he wants to go to, supporting and being with my family has always been extremely important to me.”

As both her children played competitive travel lacrosse, Odenheimer spent every weekend throughout the summer traveling to games and cheering from the sidelines. Now that she is facing an empty nest with her youngest on his way to college, she is beginning to explore what else she might find fulfilling, including learning how to crochet.

“I am thrilled to find out what brings me peace, joy, and excitement in this next part of my journey.”

By Jessica Robaire

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Su Lin Wee: Executive Director, Head of Asset Management, Southeast Asia, Hong Kong & China, PGIM Real Estate

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Su Lin Wee“The thread that ties my previous roles together, and I am most grateful for, is strong mentorship,” says Su Lin Wee. “But it’s a two-way street: you have to show up, put in the hours and deliver results.”

Wee, who is based in Singapore, delves into the foundational experiences that influenced her approach to leadership and her dedication to uplifting others – especially women.

From architecture to asset management

From the outset of her career, Wee has been inspired by strong women leaders. After earning her master’s in architecture, she joined Singapore’s Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) and played a key role in shaping the modern urban landscape of Singapore’s historically-rich Bras Basah and Bugis districts in the heart of the city.

“Working directly with successful women leaders was a great start to my career,” Wee says. “I served under many high performing women who were in CEO, Chief Planner and department head roles during my time at the URA. Starting out in an environment with strong female leadership made it feel natural, and I was fortunate to have great role models who gave me many opportunities to learn and grow.”

When Wee transitioned from urban planning to real estate development and asset management, she again found the support of mentors to be instrumental to her growth.

As a development lead for Asian developer, CapitaLand, Wee signed up for the challenge of delivering a $1.2 billion USD retail and office development in Singapore from the ground up, while facing a tight budget, short timeline and a competing developer nearby who already had a head start.

“Despite my prior experience with previous projects, stepping into the role of a development lead for such a large project presented new challenges. Managing a team that included individuals senior to me, in both age and experience, required respectful navigation and was a two-way street.”

Wee adds, “I had to work hard to earn the trust of the team to show them that I was the right person to lead the project. I benefited from the great support from my manager who gave me invaluable lessons in building trust and leadership skills, through his advocacy and close mentorship.”

The project was completed on time and within budget, and Wee speaks fondly of the great team rapport and lasting relationships that she built throughout this experience.

Wee’s experience at CapitaLand helped prepare her for her current role as Head of Asset Management for Southeast Asia, Hong Kong & China at PGIM Real Estate, which manages $206 billion USD of assets globally, including $9.4 billion USD in Asia Pacific. She is thrilled to engage in fulfilling work across various geographies and diverse teams to make a positive impact.

“The funds we manage generate more than financial value–we deploy solutions to ensure that buildings we construct or enhance are more sustainable, energy-efficient and help conserve water.”

Committed to empowering her team

Given the pivotal role mentorship has played in shaping Wee as a leader, it’s unsurprising that she is a passionate advocate for others, taking a strong interest in her team members’ growth, even if it means that they might move on to another team or company.

“I encourage openness about career aspirations. If there is another role beyond asset management that they are interested in, then I provide honest feedback on their fit for the role. If they choose to leave because it’s what’s good for them and makes them happy, then I am happy, since I want them to be able to grow.”

Wee also makes it a point of ensuring that everyone’s voice is heard.

“I value the diversity in our teams and always encourage some of our quieter, more reserved team members to speak up. Going around the table and giving them space to express their points of view lets everyone benefit from different perspectives.”

Wee firmly believes that a positive, encouraging environment is key to getting women to speak up more and make their opinions heard at work. “There’s no need to wait until you’re in a leadership position to be an advocate. Simple day-to-day acts like showing an active interest in a colleague’s ideas on a call, or helping them develop these ideas, can go a long way.”

Recently completing a PGIM leadership training, Wee reflects on how the experience reminded her that asserting one’s viewpoint can be challenging, even for leaders.

“As women, we sometimes second-guess ourselves before speaking or voicing our opinions. It turned out that many of the attendees at the training sessions, regardless of gender, nationality, background or even how confident they looked to me, shared that they sometimes felt hesitant to speak in a group and would rather stay silent than risk saying something contradictory.”

Wee continues, “Once we get over that initial hesitation, we realize, ‘Hey, the world hasn’t come crashing down, regardless of what we’ve said. Now, it’s just muscle memory to focus on contributing to discussions and bringing everyone forward.’”

Quieting the inner critic

Wee admits to being the hardest on herself, often setting increasingly high standards for her accomplishments.

“I am my own worst critic, and I believe many women face this too. We tend to be hard on ourselves, but it’s important to also recognize when we’ve earned our place through hard work, skills and experience.”

Creating networking opportunities for current and future women leaders

Uplifting others beyond the workplace, Wee is the co-chair of the Urban Land Institute’s (ULI) Women’s Leadership Initiative (WLI), a non-profit that focuses on raising the visibility and number of women leaders in the real estate industry. In her role, Wee creates programs that provide opportunities for younger women to network with industry leaders in an informal environment.

“The WLI programs we plan aim to break down barriers and allow women to listen and connect with senior leaders.” She asserts, “Sometimes, all you need is a friendly face and an introduction.”

From her experience, Wee understands the impact that these relationships can have and is looking forward to continuing her work with the WLI in the future.

“It’s invigorating to interact with other women and help one another network and grow.”

Outside of work, Wee enjoys running to stay fit and find time to think. Despite her busy schedule as a mother and professional, she regularly makes time for a run – even while on vacation with her family. No matter where she travels, she always packs her running shoes, ready to explore her new environment.

By Jessica Robaire

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What Does LGBTQ+ Pride Have to Do with Team Performance?

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leadership coachWhat do Pride month and LGBTQ+ matters have to do with career advice or workplace culture? A 2024 Gallup survey reports more than one in five of “Gen Z” people identify as LGBTQ+ in the workplace with an EY survey stating that 30% of the Generation Z workforce will identify as LGBTQ+ by 2030. As a leader or manager of your current and future workforce and talent pool, this reality requires your attention to ensure both your career and theirs are supported and successful.

Putting the kind welcoming human argument aside as we know by now humans vary in their traits, behaviors and beliefs, it is less subjective to put organizational performance as the reason to create a great culture at work for everyone. Whether it involves LGBTQ+ coworkers, professional women, or BIPOC/people of color, the leadership and organizational competency (and it is a competency) to create the best conditions for talent to thrive should be the core of diversity, equity, and inclusion work. And, diversity is not the final destination, not least because it exists already, and it is the legacy power dynamics that need to be examined. Consider the adoption of what Ely and Thomas coined as a learning and effectiveness paradigm first proposed in their 1996 HBR work, Making Difference Matter. Despite this being introduced nearly thirty years ago, they critically reminded us in 2020 that most companies have not progressed beyond the basic strategies of the 1990s, which primarily address foundational fairness and discrimination. In their article “Getting Serious About Diversity: Enough Already with the Business Case” (Harvard Business Review, November/December 2020) Ely and Thomas state:

“Having people from various identity groups “at the table” is no guarantee that anything will get better; in fact, research shows that things often get worse, because increasing diversity can increase tensions and conflict. Under the right organizational conditions, though, employees can turn cultural differences into assets for achieving team goals.”

Social/organizational psychologists such as myself will tell you that the studies over thirty years show that without understanding how to leverage differences and the conflict that comes with them, higher performance is not a guarantee. The antecedents for optimal team and organizational performance for the 30% of near future LGBTQ+ workers are much like the those of any current non-LGBTQ+ worker—psychological safety for the ability to be oneself. Conditions matter, and processes and systems have to incentivize behaviors that align with strategic talent goals to develop, promote and retain people.

Here are two strategies to successfully support LGBTQ+ talent…

Create Psychological Safety

Creating the right conditions is foundational. Coming out is still hard and still constant. Even in the best of welcoming familiar and societal conditions, there is always slight trepidation that being different won’t be received as well as being the same. There are an estimated 8-20 million of your colleagues in the US that are LGBTQ+ and of which 50% still mostly hide their identity to HR, but almost 80% are now willing to come out to one person with coming out to manager at a lower rate. At work, in a professional setting, everyone wants to show up to do their best and regardless of who you are, you have to feel psychologically safe to focus on the job at hand. When someone feels like they belong, it creates happier, and high performing employees who stay engaged.

Psychological safety refers to an individual’s perception of the consequences of taking interpersonal risks in a particular context, such as a workplace. For LGBTQ+ employees, this means feeling secure enough to express their identity without fear of negative repercussions. When employees feel psychologically safe, they are more likely to be engaged, innovative, and committed to their work. LGBTQ+ employees report a greater sense of belonging when working remotely versus in-person as they experience an increase in microaggressions when in the office. Furthermore, the UCLA William’s Institute research cites that two thirds of LGBTQ+ employees still witness slurs and pejorative talk with half of respondents experiencing discrimination. Workplace culture is societal culture as it is merely a way of saying “how do we do things around here”. Pride in the dictionary is the opposite of shame which is the flag that the wife of the US Supreme Court judge, Justice Alito wants to fly while he has publicly stated he wants to reverse gay marriage (69% of Americans are not polarized on this, supporting gay marriage). Laws matter, they influence culture as well as very real elements of LGBTQ+ peoples’ lives and careers. While partner preference if you are LGBTQ+ does not define the content of your character, judging others based on one’s own subjective beliefs, does.

Create Real Mentoring and Sponsorship Relationships

Programs and policies to support any initiative or business or organizational development goal are key but alone are not enough; climate, management practices and attitudes and mentoring and sponsorship play a crucial role. Building real relationships can bridge gaps and humanize people who are otherwise at risk of being stereotyped. For LGBTQ+ employees, having mentors and sponsors who understand and support them can make a significant difference in their career development and overall workplace experience. Policies should be implemented in a way that they are not just on paper but are actively endorsed and lived within the workplace culture. Theglasshammer now offers a coaching upskill program where mentors who want to coach their mentees in addition to giving advice and support can now acquire coaching skills for all types of mentees including specifically LGBTQ+, BIPOC and women mentees.

Creating an inclusive workplace culture is systemic work. It goes beyond unconscious bias training, since it is always good to examine one’s unconscious beliefs, but it is also shown that explicit beliefs cannot be changed this way. Continue to leverage employee resource groups and promote allyship as this can help foster a more inclusive environment. Allies, who engage in supportive and advocacy behaviors such as mentoring, sponsoring via advocating, and coaching can play a significant role in improving workplace outcomes for LGBTQ+ employees. Ultimately, fostering a supportive and inclusive workplace culture benefits everyone. Managers should use these insights to enhance organizational commitment to inclusivity, which, in turn, can lead to better job attitudes and performance for both LGBTQ+ and non-LGBTQ+ employees. It is instead a “yes, and” approach that requires modeling positive and inclusive behavior and actively engaging all employees incentivized by processes and systems around talent and meritocracy to provide support to their LGBTQ+ and all colleagues. By focusing on creating a culture of support and belonging, organizations can ensure that all employees can thrive and contribute to the organization’s success.

Be a human first and know that the LGBTQ+ community has a lot of different people in that acronym much like society at large, it consists of many people with varying degrees of ambition, talents and experiences. Most LGBTQ+ people just want to get on with life, work hard in their career, perhaps raise kids, walk their dog, see their families and occasionally enjoy a vacation. Be proud of who you are, we are all only here for an average of 4000 weeks and what do you want to do in that time?

Happy Summer from theglasshammer.com – We will be back later July after we take a vacation!

By Nicki Gilmour, Founder and CEO of theglasshammer.com

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Lauren Uranker: Managing Director, Head of Workplace Advisory Client Business, Goldman Sachs Ayco

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Lauren Uranker“Having that part of yourself where you have to navigate the if, how, and when to share it with people, you soon realize that everyone has pieces of themselves that they have to decide how and when to show or not show on an everyday basis,” says Lauren Uranker. “Acknowledging that everyone has a story creates empathy.”

As a leader and an openly lesbian executive, Uranker has built her career on a foundation of empathy and understanding. In her roles as the head of Workplace Advisory Client Business for Goldman Sachs Ayco and the co-head of the Americas LGBTQ+ Client Engagement Pillar at the firm, she navigates the complexities of leadership with a unique perspective shaped by her personal and professional experiences.

“When you spend time figuring out who you are as a person, what that means in the context of your life and your relationships with family and friends, it prepares you to do it professionally. It prepares you to give a lot of thought to how you show up as a colleague and how you show up as someone who supports clients. It gets you comfortable with constantly evaluating who you are as an individual, and how you’re growing and changing as time goes on.”

Uranker reflects on what she attributes to her success, highlighting her authentic leadership style, commitment to mentorship and diversity, and openness to taking on roles that broaden her experience and skillset in different ways.

“I haven’t always looked up to the next thing. Sometimes, by looking laterally and across, you accumulate diverse professional experiences that make you well-rounded. This can eventually lead to being seen as an expert or someone sought after to be a part of the team.”

For Uranker, being open to a lateral move is what put her on the trajectory to the leadership role she is in today.

“I was on the path to become a financial advisor, but a mentor of mine said, ‘There’s actually an opportunity on the institutional sales team.’ I took that leap. It felt like a diversion at the time, but it set me on an incredible path. From the sales team I then joined the relationship management function and even though that was a lateral move, having those two diverse professional experiences helped me get to the seat I’m in today.”

How Finance Became a Career Path

The story of Uranker’s path to leadership at Goldman Sachs Ayco connects back to a difficult period of her life when she suffered the loss of her father at the age of sixteen.

She remembers, “what really stuck with me were the people who came to help us. One of them was my neighbor, who sat down with my mom at the kitchen table, helping her organize her finances and navigate her new financial reality.” Years later while contemplating a career pivot, she recalled her neighbor’s kindness and decided to reach out, discovering that her neighbor worked at Goldman Sachs Ayco. “That’s how I found my way here, a little over a decade ago and I was proud to be named Managing Director in 2021.”

In addition to leading with empathy, she attributes her success to her competitiveness, strong listening skills, and sense of humor.

She explains, “as a former college basketball player, that competitive instinct has always been embedded in me and certainly helps professionally.” Coupling that competitive spirit with the humility to listen and the empathy to understand, she recognizes that, “you don’t always have to be the first person to speak. Sometimes your words can be more powerful if you use fewer of them.”

Uranker also highlights how humor can go a long way to creating connections as it can be used to “lighten intense moments and to drive home a point while building relationships.”

Mentorship and Sponsorship Across Diverse Communities

Uranker acknowledges that no leader succeeds alone and feels fortunate to have had mentors and managers who recognized her skills and potential, helping to build her confidence early in her career. She hopes to do the same for others and is excited to be a part of programs at Goldman that foster those relationships.

“Goldman has done quite a bit to establish frameworks that connect senior people to more junior folks in their career, but also paying special attention to diverse communities. I’ve had the incredible opportunity to be a mentor in our Black and Hispanic Analyst and Associate Initiatives.”

Uranker finds mentoring to be mutually rewarding as she learns from her mentee’s experiences and appreciates how their generationally different viewpoints can generate fresh ideas for improving the business.

Speaking specifically to the LGBTQ+ community, she notes that most of her mentorships and sponsorships have been informal, with people seeking her out after seeing her speak or knowing about her role in leading the LGBTQ+ Client Engagement Pillar. In reflecting on how young LGBTQ+ folks might create those informal connections, Uranker advocates for finding “someone who you want to spend time with and talk to; not forcing a relationship or a mentorship.” She also emphasizes not being afraid to ask, even if it might seem intimidating.

“There was a mentor I had who said, ‘If you don’t ask, you don’t get’. I think particularly for women it’s a great reminder to make your voice heard. Put your hand up and ask because the worst thing that can happen is, someone says, no.”

Embracing Additional Leadership Opportunities

Uranker’s approach to building leadership experience includes formal and voluntary approaches, as she is co-head of the Americas LGBTQ+ Client Engagement pillar and serves on the Asset & Wealth Management Inclusion & Diversity Council. She underscores the benefits of participating in and holding leadership positions in these groups, particularly at a large company like Goldman Sachs.

“First, it gives you a great way to meet people across the firm that you may not have met otherwise. Also, it provides people with an additional opportunity to flex leadership muscles and to demonstrate those skills in a different environment, perhaps one that might feel more natural to them and who they are as a person.”

Uranker shares how networks like the LGBTQ+ Inclusion Network foster cross-divisional collaboration and bring clients together in a meaningful way.

“We always look for interesting ways to gather our LGBTQ+ clients and regularly put together events to engage with them. We have one coming up in celebration of Pride.” She continues, “Coordinating events like that are a really fulfilling and fun opportunity to work cross-divisionally in a big organization and have the LGBTQ+ piece be the common thread. Through the network, I have had the opportunity to work closely with colleagues in other areas of the firm I don’t typically connect with in my day-to-day role including Mary Baccash, Nora Cruz, and Molly English. These are among the most meaningful partnerships I’ve formed at the firm.”

Dedicated to Community Engagement

Passionate about contributing to the LGBTQ+ community, Uranker served on the board of the Persad Center, an organization in Pittsburgh that provides scalable and free mental health access to the LGBTQ+ community.

“Like many people, I believe that taking care of your mental health is incredibly important and knowing some of the challenges within the LGBTQ+ community, it’s even more important that access to these resources exist.”

After moving from Pittsburgh to Seattle recently, Uranker continues to look for opportunities to give back and is thrilled that Goldman demonstrates this same commitment to philanthropy through programs including Community Teamworks. She explains, “through the program, employees are encouraged to take at least one day to volunteer with their colleagues in their communities. Last year, I had the opportunity to clean up some of the trails here in the Seattle region for hikers, which I really enjoyed.”

Outside of work, Uranker makes sure to take some time to decompress by practicing yoga. She also enjoys playing basketball, traveling with her wife, and reading. Interestingly, her book recommendations demonstrate that she is as much a well-rounded reader as she is leader, noting that she recently read and loved the nonfiction book, “Stolen Focus: Why You Can’t Pay Attention” by Johann Hari and the memoir “Crying in H Mart” by Michelle Zauner.

By Jessica Robaire

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Jill Ford: Co-head of Equity Capital Markets, Wells Fargo

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Jill Ford“The equity capital markets are unique in that they’re looking towards the future. The companies we’re raising capital for are disrupting the world, and giving us a glimpse of what’s next. I really enjoy that aspect of going into work every day,” says Jill Ford, Co-head of Equity Capital Markets at Wells Fargo. “No company’s the same, no day is the same, no transaction’s the same. In addition, you get to be around incredibly smart, strategic, visionary thinkers who are potentially going to change the world.”

Embracing Change No Matter How Established You Are in Your Career

With more than three decades of experience in investment banking, Ford is motivated by the ever-evolving landscape of the equity capital markets and the broad array of challenges and opportunities it presents. However, it took trying a few different jobs in the beginning of Ford’s career to discover that a role in equity capital markets was the right fit for her. She reflects that the twists and turns of this early stage were important in understanding, “what I enjoyed doing and what I didn’t enjoy doing, but also to see what I was actually good at and what I wasn’t particularly good at. Both of those things are hard to get a handle on until you’re in the workforce doing the job.”

Ford recently embarked on a new challenge in her career, leaving the firm where she started her career and where she had worked for two decades, to join Wells Fargo as co-head of Equity Capital Markets. Her decision highlights the importance of embracing change, no matter how established you are in your career. She acknowledges that there was a steep learning curve in getting acclimated to a new firm and job, not only in the sense of building a network of connections across another organization, but also in proving herself and establishing her value. Now that she has settled in, she is pleased to find that her instincts landed her in the right place.

“I’m thrilled to be a part of Wells Fargo…I’m starting to feel ingrained in the culture, particularly how team oriented it is. Everyone is eager to help me navigate the company and connect me to others. There is a wonderful momentum and energy throughout the organization.”

Success and Development as a Leader

As a leader in equity capital markets, Ford knows what it takes to rise through the ranks. Reflecting on what has contributed to her success, Ford points to having the discipline to put in the work and build relationships with clients over time by actively listening to their concerns and what’s important to them.

“Being willing to go the extra mile for a client, being willing to go the extra mile for a team, creates a certain amount of goodwill.” She adds, “I have a strong muscle for taking in what is important to different stakeholders, synthesizing how to best serve them, and giving them options that optimize that priority stack.”

Ford believes that being a good leader is about going outside your comfort zone. She shares the example of offering constructive criticism as a tool for helping others grow.

“Being willing to give constructive criticism to people, even if it feels uncomfortable, is a skill that I’ve had to acquire. Not just giving feedback once a year during reviews but giving it constantly. People will be able to move their careers forward much more quickly if they’re given not just the pats on the back, but true constructive criticism.”

She continues, “I mentor people that way as well, which is not just to say, ‘okay, let’s have a coffee and I’ll tell you how great you are,’ but ‘let’s have a coffee and discuss where you think you might fall short. Then I’ll tell you what I think or help connect you with people I know will give you a straight answer.’ There are ways to coach that feel good for everybody and there are ways to coach that might feel a bit outside your comfort zone, and you have to do both.”

Reflecting on the constructive feedback she received over the years, Ford benefited from it but also wishes she had received more, noting it was hard to come by earlier in her career when there were fewer women leaders around her.

“I feel like a lot of men shied away from having those difficult conversations with women or anyone who didn’t look like them. In the end, that stymies your goals and your opportunities to advance.”

As more women have risen to leadership positions over the years, Ford has seen a productive shift.

“The playing field now is a little bit more level – because men see us as equals, they’re more willing to have those tough conversations with us, which is refreshing.”

Learning from Other Women Leaders and Being the Model for the Next Generation

Given the history of underrepresentation of women in senior leadership positions in the financial industry, it’s no surprise that another significant element Ford attributes to her career development is having the guidance of other women leaders as role models.

“There must be mentorship and guidance, whether it’s formal or informal, or you’re not going to see the end game for your career. As a leader, I have to be that person for others. Seeing a woman or diverse colleague reach the upper rungs and manage groups is not only inspiring, it sends the message to others that you can make this happen too.”

Ford shares that her greatest inspiration came from a senior woman leader who not only exemplified effective leadership but also spoke about the importance of her family.

Ford continues: “She had an incredible ability to get what she needed to be successful at her job, both up and down the chain. She also was the one who debunked the notion that ‘you can only have one kid in finance’ because she had three. She told me how she made it work and gave me a lot of practical advice for having multiple kids. Then she went on to become the CFO of a multibillion-dollar company.”

Aware she will be that inspiration for others, Ford is pragmatic in her approach to balancing her career and motherhood, acknowledging the sacrifices involved in having a demanding career while giving her children the quality time they need.

“I don’t sugarcoat how hard it is, but I always let people know it gets easier. The more senior you get, the more you can delegate…Your job and being a mother are both full-time jobs and it’s impossible to have two full-time jobs, but you can outsource what you need to outsource. You can ask people to help you and you can put your foot on the accelerator and on the brake at different stages in your life and at different points in your kid’s life to make it all work.”

The advice she offers is: “Be a sponge, figure out how everyone’s unique situation is working for them and then take the best parts that might apply to your situation. Make sure you have support, whether it’s a spouse or parents or hiring babysitters, so that you can figure out how to get the job done with more than just you.”

Finding Joy Personally and Professionally

Now that her children are older, Ford feels the pull of the balancing act less. She has more time to dedicate to her passions, both professionally and personally.

From a personal standpoint, Ford finds joy in downhill skiing and calls it one of her “secret weapons” for staying close to her children as it brings the family together outside in nature. She is an avid foodie and delights in a good taco truck as much as a Michelin starred restaurant, both of which are easy to find near her homebase of New York City. In her spare time, you might find Ford pouring over an interior design magazine, exploring her interest in innovative design concepts.

Professionally, Ford is excited for the what the future holds in leading the Equity Capital Markets business at Wells Fargo.

“I want to continue to be a part of companies that are transforming the world for good. There are many small companies that have great ideas and investors who want to put money to work in those types of endeavors. I relish being a part of linking these two worlds to move the ball forward and effect change.”

By Jessica Robaire

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Tara Stafford: Project Manager, PGIM Operations & Innovation

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Tara Stafford“Don’t be afraid to be authentically you,” says Tara Stafford, Project Manager, Operations & Innovation at PGIM. “If you can do that, you’ll be surprised how your contributions can positively impact the business, those around you – and beyond.”

Making a Positive Impact – Both Personally and Professionally

Being “authentically you” at work wasn’t easy for Stafford early in her career. After graduating from Montclair State University with a degree in Business Management and Marketing, Stafford landed at the investment and wealth management firm, Merrill Lynch, as the only Black woman on her team.

“Coming into the financial services industry as a Black woman, I didn’t always have the courage and confidence to be myself because I didn’t see a lot of women in senior leadership positions that looked like me in the industry,” Stafford says.

Tara’s authenticity is most evident when she is serving others in her community. Over the last two decades, she has volunteered as a Girl Scout troop leader to high school girls and is a back-up foster parent to two children on the autism spectrum. Her parents, both educators, instilled the responsibility to serve the community and make a positive impact in it.

Tara worked hard and rose through the ranks over 12 years at Merrill—becoming a Six Sigma Blackbelt and assistant vice president in the Global Transaction division, before leaving to join PGIM’s Risk Management team. She enjoyed her regulatory oversight position, but that feeling she could do more – be more – at work wouldn’t go away.

Then, Stafford learned about an opportunity on PGIM’s Operations & Innovation’s Business & Talent Management team where there is a strong focus on including recruiting, training, employee engagement and diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives. She has made impactful contributions and helped launch and lead PGIM’s Neurodiversity Program, which is focused on establishing a more inclusive talent process – from recruiting, to interviewing, to training and retention, recognizing the skills of those who are neurodivergent. The program also has an education component, teaching managers and employees how to best recruit, work with neurodiverse talent and become better leaders. Stafford feels this role in project management is a natural extension of her passion and values.

According to Employee Benefits News, 85% of autistic adults with a college education are unemployed. “I had an idea of what this untapped population needs were and how to best support and showcase their many talents,” Stafford says. She took on the role and jumped right in, onboarding the first six neurodiverse cohort members last year. Four of the six earned full-time roles within PGIM, and another cohort is currently going through the program.

Stafford credits three important attributes she honed through years of volunteerism and foster parenting with helping her make the program a success: empathy, commitment and patience.

“People connect with you more and receive more from you when you are open and honest,” Stafford says. She believes that an effective leader is someone willing to learn from others, open to receiving “reverse” mentorship and is dedicated to helping others grow and thrive.

“Make sure you share your knowledge. It’s very important for people to understand that we’re not competing with each other; we’re helping each other.”

Finding Mentors and Sponsorship Outside of Your Comfort Zone

Stafford has a unique perspective on the values of mentorship and sponsorship.

“Growth among peers is not a competition, and everyone’s growth path is different. Putting egos aside and collectively pooling our talent and expertise helps ensure that our business’ goals are prioritized, enabling everyone to ultimately be successful,” she says. “At the end of the day, if support and resources I’ve provided can help develop and lift someone else as I climb the corporate ladder, no matter what level they are, I’ve done my job – and I’ve done it well.”

While she wishes she could have had more mentors with a similar background, Stafford says she learned over the years how important it is to find a mentor or sponsor who has different viewpoints.

She explains, “For me, having a white male mentor is just as important as having a mentor who is a Black woman. Your allies can share a different perspective and teach you new things. It’s very important to have mentors and allies from all different backgrounds and walks of life.”

Stafford also believes there’s value in finding a mentor organically—even if it means going outside of your comfort zone to approach someone for career advice or to learn more about their professional experience. “All relationships need to start somewhere, and in reaching out, you’re showing that you fully own your career.” she says.

“It’s also important that you’re giving just as much as you’re receiving in a mentoring relationship, so be prepared and think strategically about who you want to mentor you… especially since mentors can turn into your sponsors – the people who are champions in your corner and advocate for you at the tables where you don’t have a seat.”

Being the Change She Wants to See in the World

As if it weren’t enough to make a positive impact on her colleagues, Girl Scout troops and foster children’s lives, Stafford wanted to make an even bigger difference in her community, choosing to run for her local school board in 2019. Although she didn’t win, she gained valuable knowledge from the experience.

“I learned how tenacious and resilient I really am, and that experience strengthened my connection to my community and broadened my support network,” Stafford says.

When asked what keeps her going when faced with challenges, she emphasizes her passion for change and her commitment to working hard for the things she values. That, she says, is what is most “authentically me.”

“Your values speak to what you will work hard for. Ultimately, what drives me when it comes to making change and serving as a role model is, ‘If not me, then who?’”

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Sabina Munnelly: Partner, Baringa

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Sabina Munnelly“Sometimes you don’t even see your own potential,” says Sabina Munnelly. “But when someone makes it clear that they see something in you, their belief in you can help grow a belief in yourself that you might have not even had.”

Munnelly speaks to openness on your path, being a force of nature, surpassing the barriers and the value of mirrors that reflect and magnify your possibilities.

Embracing Opportunity and Switching It Up

Since the moment that computers were introduced in the ‘90s halfway through her education at Trinity College in Dublin, Munnelly began a career she would never have seen coming.

“Embrace what comes at you. You don’t have to control everything, and it doesn’t always have to fit in with what you originally thought,” says Munnelly. “I got a whole other opportunity because I opened my mind to the technology piece.”

After starting in banking as a technology tester, Munnelly worked for Compaq and Hewlett Packard, gaining vast experience with big players. Rather than transition to management, she joined Accenture so she could continue to keep her hands in project work. Across 16 years, she jumped between various tech and data related areas of expertise, becoming a Managing Director at Accenture Applied Intelligence, and moving to New York from Europe.

“I always like to pivot every three years or so, to keep myself up to date. I’m a bit of a magpie,” confesses Munnelly. “Anything that is white space. Give me a white board, and I’ll figure it out. I prefer that, so my journey has been a constant evolution.”

In 2021, she joined Baringa, a global management consultancy working across multiple sectors including energy, financial services, telecoms, media, consumer goods, retail and government. As a leading advisor on the energy transition globally, sustainability runs through much of the business’s work across sectors. In addition to enjoying the entrepreneurial spirit of building a fast-growing team in the U.S., Munnelly feels she’s come full circle to interests at her roots, having written her thesis on wind farming back in college.

“From a financial services perspective, there’s a lot of momentum behind the notion that if you can put the capital to make the most impact in the right place, then change happens where the money goes,” notes Munnelly. “If I can be involved in making change happen through climate activity and how investors deploy their capital to fund those changes, that really resonates with me.”

Equally, culture was a big factor in her move: “For me, you have to be able to get up in the morning and love what you do and love the people your work with. A people-focused business was really important to me.”

A Force of Nature

Describing herself as driven, Munnelly feels curiosity and a love of learning and problem solving motivate her. She enjoys start-to-finish involvement, and smiles saying she would be called “a force of nature” by her colleagues.

“It’s definitely an energy, but also a cohesion with the team.”

While she’ll come into a room with a strong point of view, she feels ‘nature’ implies a melding with the environment. She’s very much about being ‘in it together’ as a team and enjoying the adventure, and feels energized by working with others. These days, she would admit that her intuition and her attunement to reading the energy of a room have been important contributions to her success, as well as self-care.

Her sensitivity to her own and other’s energy has increasingly been a validated part of how she navigates her work-life: “I balance my energy. So I don’t think about the hours I work. I actually think about the energy I expend in a day.”

If You Can See It…

Growing up with three younger brothers, Munnelly was both accustomed to being in male-dominated spaces and being respected in them. So when she went into finance and tech, her context didn’t phase her.

“I enjoyed going into rooms and finding those moments where I’d pipe up with an interesting point of view or a question, and all of a sudden, people would shift around and look at me,” she says. “So I find it quite empowering. I’ve used the difference to my advantage.”

Only as she grew more senior did the gaps in representation of women become far more visible to her. And being one of the few in that space, she felt her role was to vocalize what she saw.

“It increased my use of my voice. It’s important that it doesn’t become a silent observation or be held in,” says Munnelly. “It’s important to make sure that things are noted and vocalized, and even with the reasons, considered.”

Mary Robinson, the first female president of Ireland who held term from 1990-1997, was a real inspiration in envisioning possibility. It made such a difference to teenage Munnelly that it stirs up emotion even today. Robinson allowed her to see not only what could be, but what was possible.

“I think all of these factors combined meant I didn’t buy into the barrier, and just ignored it, and still today it hasn’t stopped me, because I have a deeper belief that it can happen – at least in the spaces where I’m operating in.”

Coming to Baringa, she was met with a U.S. office that held a 50/50 gender representation at senior levels, and where every individual has an advisor. Having doubled down on its U.S. growth in the past 5 years, a DEI approach has infused the internal culture and focus for external impact from the outset.

Do What You Love, and Empower Others

Due to her extensive background in consulting and taking an advisory role, Munnelly has become adept at taking the listening seat to consider all voices when it comes to coming up with the best way forward, rather than just pushing her initial viewpoint. She’s learned to take her own ego out of the way.

As she thinks of the shift from ‘doing’ to ‘enabling’ as a leader, and the amount of letting go required, Munnelly is grateful for the people that saw her potential and trusted her. Having your ability reflected back to you matters, she feels, regardless of what level you’re at. She focuses on paying that back, in witnessing, encouraging, motivating and empowering her team through trust: “At the end of the day it’s belief and self-belief that matter.”

“Build your skills using the best of others that are ahead of you,” she suggests. She encourages women to pick up the best of what they observe in managers and leaders, integrate what inspires you and make it your own.

Do what you love is a practical direction she recently received from a leader that empowered her: “She didn’t say ‘meet these numbers’ or ‘I want you to do these things.’ She gave me the freedom of saying ‘just continue, but do what you love.’ She probably knew that if I heard that, then I would already motivate myself and do more than what others would ask from me,” reflects Munnelly. “If I’m in a positive frame of mind, loving what I’m doing, then I’ll be even more successful.”

She suggests to ask yourself if is it possible to tweak your work to get more enjoyment out of what you’re doing. Family, friends, a good chat and laughter are core to Munnelly. She enjoys spending time with her young daughter who keeps her more than busy and grounded. She also loves cycling, and while she’s always loved adventure and fast movement, in the past years she’s begun taking up more energy balancing activities like acupuncture and massage. She’s also a Reiki master.

By Aimee Hansen

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